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~ Michael Jan Friedman ~
With nearly 60 books notched on his pencil, many appearing on the New York Times bestseller list, it's safe to say, author Michael Jan Friedman knows his way around the alphabet. Add to the list some television and radio work and you've got yourself a pretty fine box of candy. Call it good and wake me in the morning.
But, for this reader, being handed the heavy baton to carry forward new Star Trek ideas as the writer for the Star Trek: The Next Generation comic book series is the feather. If there is anything more cool-breeze than being linked to the iconic Star Trek franchise...in a medium that is cool unto itself...the list is short. Like many fantasy and sci-fi ideas, Michael dreams them in aurora and remembers them in words. As Pete Townshend once said, "Nothing is everything."
MICHAEL JAN FRIEDMAN INTERVIEW MAY 2016
Michael Jan Friedman: Well, I had first started writing novels for the Pocket Books Star Trek program. I guess I had maybe written three of them and was invited to their Christmas Party...which was basically a couple of pizza pies and sitting around a conference room. (laughs) And I met a guy named Bob Greenberger who was the Star Trek editor at DC Comics. And we kind of hit it off.
At the time, DC was only publishing an original series comic. But Bob said pretty soon the license was going to be renewed and was going to include the new show..."The Next Gen." And he said at that time, we'll talk. When DC got "The Next Generation" license, Bob offered me the gig.
It ran 80 issues. And I did like...77 or 78 of them. To tell you the truth, I really thought of it as my property. (laughs) I was always a little annoyed whenever Bob said, 'Yeah, we're gonna give someone else a month here and there.' But it was a great opportunity. I loved doing it. It was a lot of fun. It was like writing a second "Star Trek" TV show.
Casey Chambers: Yeah, they read like episodes, too. When you're writing a monthly comic like that, how do you determine how many issues a story is going to be?
Michael Jan Friedman: Well, it's kind of an instinctive thing. There's no science to it. I'm sure there were stories that I wrote in three issues that I could have written in two or even one if my life depended on it. But they just felt like two issues or three issues or four. I think four issues was the longest arc I did. But, ya know...you write the outline for the story and kind of break it down and see where the high points are and take it from there. It's not a science. It's more of an art.
ST:TNG (issue #1)
Casey Chambers: What was the hardest part about working on this comic?
Michael Jan Friedman: Well, the hardest part about writing "The Next Generation" comic was the approval process. You were always trying to second guess the writers on the TV show. Ya know...'let me try to come up with a story that they're not going to come up with.'
But a large percentage of the time, I would come up with something thinking, 'well they're never going to do this.' And of course, I'd get a response back from Paramount saying, 'We can't tell you why we're not approving this storyline...but we're not.' Of course, I understood whenever they said that...it meant that they had the same story development. Which is very common. If you're proceeding from the same premises, it's hardly unusual for writers to come up with the same story possibilities. So, that was the hardest part about working on that comic.
The easiest part was working with the artists. The letterers and the colorers. It was always a great feeling to write a script and then see it rendered. I think every comic writer has a little bit of an artist in them. And to see how the artist interpreted the script and rendered it was always really exciting.
Casey Chambers: It sounds like Paramount approval could be a big matzah ball. So when the first issues hit the stands...what happened?
Michael Jan Friedman: Well, one thing I learned really quickly was that Paramount didn't want me to include any original characters. They wanted it very much about the television cast. Which was not at all the case with the DC comic Peter David and others worked on before "The Next Generation" comic came out.
So I was, at first, proceeding from the idea I had to put in secondary characters who could then die or leave or get pregnant. But that wasn't the case. They (Paramount) wanted it to be very much about the TV characters. So I learned that very quickly. In terms of the response to it, it was wonderful. I mean, the sales were great. Fans loved it. I got lots of great comments. So, it was a wonderful start.
Casey Chambers: One of the stand-out stories in this series is when you have Q changing everyone onboard the Enterprise into Klingons. (issues #33-35)
ST:TNG (issue #33)
Michael Jan Friedman: Yeah, Q was a really interesting character. But I liked him more for what he could do...than for who he was. You could have a lot of fun with that. And so one thing he could do was turn everybody into Klingons. (laughs)
When you're writing a comic as opposed to writing a book, you want to be visual. You want to think in terms of...what in this story are they going to put on the cover that's gonna help sell this book? What are we gonna show in the inside in each panel? Where am I gonna get the action from? 'Cause there has to be action. Even in a cerebral story, which "Star Trek" tends to be, you need more than just talking heads. You need action. And where is that gonna come from? So Klingons running wild on the Enterprise was a great visual idea. I knew the artists would salivate when they read that script.
Casey Chambers: I know it's been 20 years since the series wrapped...but do you remember having a favorite story?
Michael Jan Friedman: My favorite one...probably "The Worst Of Both Worlds" which were issues #47-50. It's when the crew posits in an alternate timeline...where the Borg have been successful in taking over the Federation. Looking back, I would say that was my favorite arc.
Casey Chambers: Thanks for sharing that. Now you had mentioned Peter David earlier. The two of you collaborated on a great mini-series called "The Modala Imperative."
"The Modala Imperative"
Michael Jan Friedman: Yeah, Peter and I are good friends and we've actually collaborated on a number of projects. And very often with Bob Greenberger. It has always been very comfortable collaborating with those guys. Writing is such a solitary life. It's not as efficient to work with other people, but it is more pleasant. And it's necessary, in a lot of cases (laughs) to get you out from behind your desk and talking.
In the case of "Modala...", Bob engineered that. They gave us an opportunity to mix the generations. To an extent. Not to a great extent, but to an extent. He knew that would be a big sales boost, so he went for it and got Peter and me to write the two 4-issue parts for it.
Peter had been writing the original series at that point and I was on "Next Gen." But for "The Modala Imperative"...we switched. He actually got the better assignment, because he was able to bring...who was it...Spock and McCoy, I believe...into the "Next Generation." McCoy had already been established. Spock was going to be eventually. It was a great series to work on. The art was terrific. Adam Hughes did the covers. It was great.
Casey Chambers: Can you remember buying your first comic?
A "House of Secrets" comic
Michael Jan Friedman: It was a "House of Secrets" comic from around 1961. I don't know that I spent my own money on that comic, but I do know I picked it off the newsstand. I believe I went to the store with my father. My parents, unlike some parents, remembered fondly their days of reading comics and they actually encouraged me to read them because they knew...reading comics was reading.
I've since found it on the internet. And it's interesting. The cover didn't look exactly the way I remembered it, but all the elements were there. And it was great. It was science-fiction and I love science-fiction. Shortly after that, I bought some DC comics. And then, when Marvel came out, I bought "Fantastic Four" (#1).
And I had the infinitely hideous financial sense to trade it for "Secret Origins" (#1)...which I liked a lot better! But in any case, you can tell I was starting to read comic books in the very early '60s.
"Secret Origins" (#1)
Casey Chambers: It was a great era for comics.
Michael Jan Friedman: Yeah, Marvel was just starting. And with my little kid sensibilities, I liked DC a lot better. It was clean. It was brighter. It wasn't as gritty. Ya know, Marvel seemed to me to be...I don't know...kind of too real. Too gritty. Too violent, maybe? It took a couple years for me to really understand Marvel and embrace it.
Casey Chambers: Switching gears, in '95 you also wrote an episode of the "Star Trek: Voyager" TV series. ("Resistance" - S:2/E:12) Tell us about that.
Michael Jan Friedman: Well, Kevin Ryan was my script writing partner. We had pitched to "The Next Gen..." a few times. And "Deep Space Nine"...we had pitched to Ron Moore one time. So we were in pitching mode. And almost invariably, we would give them six pitches and four or five of them would already be in development. It showed that we were thinking along the right lines. But they were listening to a thousand pitches a year, so it wasn't surprising.
You had to be very, very lucky. And the pitch we hit paydirt with was...(Captain) Janeway plays a Dolsanaya to a Kazon...Don Quixote. So all these "high content" pitches, which are the best kind you can come up with, are from somewhere. And this one was from "Don Quixote." And that's the one they bought.
When they went into production, of course, they made some changes to it. They actually changed the Kazon to a sort of a "race of the week" kind of thing. A Nazi-esque ruled planet with the Don Quixote character being a former revolutionary. And he thinks Janeway is his daughter. So, he's a deluded but noble person just as Don Quixote was. Janeway is very much grounded in reality and rejects his delusions just as Dolsanaya did. Eventually, she sees his nobility and willingness to sacrifice himself and in the end embraces his illusion.
Just to show you how precarious the pitching process is...we had pitched (the story) to Jeri Taylor, who was one of the executive producers. And she said, 'Gee, you know, I really like this idea. I'm gonna take it to the rest of the staff.' And the next morning, she calls us back and she said, 'Hey, you know what? We're gonna buy it.' Which, as you can imagine, was a euphoric moment for us. Then she says, 'But you'll be interested to know that we had substantially the same pitch this morning. And had you guys pitched this afternoon instead of yesterday...we would have been forced to buy that other pitch.'
Casey Chambers: Luck and timing, no doubt.
Michael Jan Friedman: Yeah. You have to be not only good and on point, but very, very lucky.
Casey Chambers: That's a great story. Do you remember watching it for the first time?
Michael Jan Friedman: I do. I do. I was sitting in my den with a bunch of friends and neighbors and it was very cool. (laughs) It was very cool. Although I'll tell you what...as cool as that was, I don't think it was as cool as when I sold my first book. Because the jump from being a print writer to a TV writer was substantial. It was huge. But not as big as the jump from being no writer at all to being a guy who is publishing a novel. In my professional career, that was the most euphoric moment for me. That was back in the mid-'80s when I sold my first book which was a fantasy novel called, "The Hammer And The Horn." There's a story behind that too if you want to hear it.
Casey Chambers: Absolutely.
Michael Jan Friedman: I was writing a humor column when I went to the University Of Pennsylvania and one of my friends there...his family had a literary agency in New York.
And he said to me, 'Mike, I love your stuff. When you come to write a book...and I know you will...you're gonna bring it to me. Because, by then, I'll be working for my father and my grandfather.' I said, 'Sure. Great.'
So, when I wrote, "The Hammer And The Horn", I brought it to him. He took a few days to read it and said, 'Mike, this could be the next great science-fiction classic. Or, this could be a pile of horseshit. I don't know. I don't read this stuff. You need somebody who reads science-fiction and fantasy.' And he turned me on to another literary agency.
I called them and I said, 'I'm a new writer. I have this book. This guy sent me over to you.' They said, 'Well...thanks, but we're not taking any new writers right now.' And, in my bravado, loathe to take no for an answer, I told them, 'Don't you want the next Stephen King?' And they said, 'Actually, we're very happy with the current Stephen King.' This was really Stephen King's agent, unbeknownst to me. (laughs)
But then I thought to ask them a question which I'm very happy these days that I asked. 'Where would you recommend I take this?' And they sent me to an agency that eventually did end up representing me.
The woman there, Karen Hoss, was very good and saw exactly what I had to do to whip my manuscript into shape. She took it to Warner who was launching a new science-fiction and fantasy imprint named Quaestar. And the editor, Kathy Malley, bought the book almost instantly. And the next thing I knew, I was a published writer.
Casey Chambers: Asking that one question might've changed everything. Now you can afford to go back and buy that Fantastic Four you traded! (laughs)
Michael Jan Friedman: Yeah. (laughs)
Casey Chambers: Since The College Crowd Digs Me is primarily a music site, I'd like to ask about the kind of music you enjoy and what readers should check out or revisit.
Michael Jan Friedman: Well, ya know, I'm a folk and folk rock kind of aficionado. And it's probably not very cutting edge, but I love Peter Paul and Mary and their predecessors. Bob Dylan. Simon and Garfunkel. One thing that recently caught my attention is a cover of "The Sound Of Silence" by Disturbed.
Casey Chambers: Yeah, it's a surprising take.
Michael Jan Friedman: Yeah, you wouldn't expect them to cover "The Sound Of Silence" and it's unbelievable. It's haunting. And the video is tremendous. They really put a different spin to it. I don't know about the album, but I would recommend that song. And I think everybody should listen to some folk and some folk-rock regardless of what else they like.
And I actually had the occasion to meet Art Garfunkel. Guess it was a year and a half ago. He was recovering from larynx surgery, I think it was, and trying to get his chops back. Well, Pete Fornatale...he was a very popular DJ around here on Long Island...was turning 70. And since Simon & Garfunkel were turning 70, he stationed an event at our library. It was a Simon & Garfunkel retrospective. There was a power point presentation. And it was tremendous. And he said, 'Since you've been such a great audience, I have somebody who wants to come out and say hello.' And he surprised us by introducing...Art Garfunkel.
Casey Chambers: That would've been great!
Michael Jan Friedman: Yeah, and he sang a few songs. And he wasn't perfect because he was recovering from the surgery. But he was Art Garfunkel. I mean, when he was on...it was just magic. It was one of the high points of my life.
"April Come She Will" - Simon & Garfunkel
And he told a story that night about when he and Paul Simon were starting out. How they were just two kids from Forest Hills and they were trying to make it. And I guess they had cut "The Sound Of Silence" and it didn't do that well. And so they went on tour in Europe for the summer and somebody called them and said they'd like to remix it and put in some more instrumental stuff. And they said, 'Sure...what do we got to lose?'
And when they came home, they were sitting in Paul's car in Forest Hills and heard their song which had been remixed. And the DJ screams, 'It's number one!' And Paul turns to Art and says, 'Boy, number one in the charts. I wonder what those Simon & Garfunkel guys are doing right now?' (laughs)
Casey Chambers: Little do they know...
Michael Jan Friedman: Just sitting in the car listening to the radio. So yep, that's my taste in music.
Casey Chambers: Michael, thank you very much for taking time out to share a few stories today. I really appreciate it.
Michael Jan Friedman: It's my pleasure. It was great talking to you.
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